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		<title>By: Patrick Richmond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Richmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 23:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Eureka Springs, Arkansas, I see they do have those van like buses.  They too have the Chevy Kodiak 4500 truck like bus along with their beautiful Optima trolleys.  Sadly, Optima Bus corporation no longer makes those grand looking buses.  They seat about the same amount of people as the 2100s do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Eureka Springs, Arkansas, I see they do have those van like buses.  They too have the Chevy Kodiak 4500 truck like bus along with their beautiful Optima trolleys.  Sadly, Optima Bus corporation no longer makes those grand looking buses.  They seat about the same amount of people as the 2100s do.</p>
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		<title>By: Courtney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Courtney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike and Patrick,

The question of deadheading buses is really best answered by our planning department; I&#039;m just unsure of the history and planning decisions in regards to that question.  Will get back to you as soon as I can.

Thanks,
Courtney</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike and Patrick,</p>
<p>The question of deadheading buses is really best answered by our planning department; I&#8217;m just unsure of the history and planning decisions in regards to that question.  Will get back to you as soon as I can.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Courtney</p>
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		<title>By: MIKE</title>
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		<dc:creator>MIKE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick,

That&#039;s a very good point you made about deadheading buses. Bi-State used to utilize their buses on some of their routes in that manner, by allowing a bus to remain in revenue service on its way to the garage, after completing its final run, and that bus was about to be taken out of service, or when that route was shutting down for the day. It can work in just the opposite manner before buses begin their run for the day  

That makes good economic sense by getting the most out of their resourses, in addition to the fact that it provides additional service which is made available to potential riders. That&#039;s a great way to encourage and generate new ridership, as well as selling a good product by providng the type of service that is user friendly.  Why wasn&#039;t that portion of your comment responded to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a very good point you made about deadheading buses. Bi-State used to utilize their buses on some of their routes in that manner, by allowing a bus to remain in revenue service on its way to the garage, after completing its final run, and that bus was about to be taken out of service, or when that route was shutting down for the day. It can work in just the opposite manner before buses begin their run for the day  </p>
<p>That makes good economic sense by getting the most out of their resourses, in addition to the fact that it provides additional service which is made available to potential riders. That&#8217;s a great way to encourage and generate new ridership, as well as selling a good product by providng the type of service that is user friendly.  Why wasn&#8217;t that portion of your comment responded to?</p>
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		<title>By: Courtney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Courtney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick,

Currently the Planning Department is looking to split the #57 Manchester service so that the heaviest-use section runs on its own route and shortens the route length.  The bus procurement is a work in progress...we can put ourselves on waiting list for brand new buses, lease buses from other agencies, bring older buses back, and looking at smaller, van-like buses.  I will let everyone know when we add more new buses to the fleet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick,</p>
<p>Currently the Planning Department is looking to split the #57 Manchester service so that the heaviest-use section runs on its own route and shortens the route length.  The bus procurement is a work in progress&#8230;we can put ourselves on waiting list for brand new buses, lease buses from other agencies, bring older buses back, and looking at smaller, van-like buses.  I will let everyone know when we add more new buses to the fleet.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Richmond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Richmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 23:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I asked Metro about the arrival of the new buses, and I got no answer.  I would love to see some arrive.  Please assign some to the new #48.  I am never a fan of deadheading buses, because when they go out on some portions of thier route just to get to the begining of thier route, it is really a waste of fuel just to run an empty bus out to the begining of a route in order to begin service.  Like the #57 Manehster.  Once they get to Wildwood or now Manchester and Barrett Station Road, or West County shopping Center, the buses that are deadheading out Manchester Road EMPTY!!  And that is a waste of fuel, and the tax payers are paying for that fuel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I asked Metro about the arrival of the new buses, and I got no answer.  I would love to see some arrive.  Please assign some to the new #48.  I am never a fan of deadheading buses, because when they go out on some portions of thier route just to get to the begining of thier route, it is really a waste of fuel just to run an empty bus out to the begining of a route in order to begin service.  Like the #57 Manehster.  Once they get to Wildwood or now Manchester and Barrett Station Road, or West County shopping Center, the buses that are deadheading out Manchester Road EMPTY!!  And that is a waste of fuel, and the tax payers are paying for that fuel.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Richmond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Richmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 23:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MIKE, MetroBus route #99 should run on Sunday service and also the #40 as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MIKE, MetroBus route #99 should run on Sunday service and also the #40 as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Richmond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Richmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 23:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone said that the #99 downtown trolley is really a wrapped MetroBus rather than something like Eureka Springs, Arkansas has which is really a trolley bus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone said that the #99 downtown trolley is really a wrapped MetroBus rather than something like Eureka Springs, Arkansas has which is really a trolley bus.</p>
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		<title>By: MIKE</title>
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		<dc:creator>MIKE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A product will sell itself if the product is good to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A product will sell itself if the product is good to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: MIKE</title>
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		<dc:creator>MIKE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To further reiterate my previous comment regarding the service enhancement plan that Metro stated in the Post Dispatch article, Metro had provided a brief outline of how they would enhance bus service with the passage of Prop. M. That plan took a hit when Prop. M was defeated, and the funding to support the planned service enhancement could not be generated. However, with the passage of Prop. A, funding is now available to support the service enhancement plan, as stated in the Post Dispatch article. 

The defeat of Prop. M resulted in cuts in Metrobus service, which resulted in the loss of passenger boardings, because Metrobus service became no longer available to serve those former passengers. The Passage of Prop A, will now generate the funds necessary to eventually restore previously loss service. For starters, the ripple affect of the service cuts now has to be reversed by gradually restoring service back to the same levels which existed prior to the cuts. This will make Metro service available once again for passengers who were affected by the cuts, and hopefully encourage them to return back to using public transit, so that ridership may begin to peak toward the same levels enjoyed by Metro prior to the service cuts. 

Now that funding will become available as the result of passing Prop. A, after the previous level of service has been restored, I hope that Metro will impliment the plan it had promised in 2008, when campaigning for Prop. M.  To win back former riders, and in order to encourage new riders to use public transit, Metro, to a great extent, will probably have to sell itself as well as their their product, in order to regain public trust. The product can sell itself by providing efficient and reliable public transportation. I think the public is tired of campaign promises. They want results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To further reiterate my previous comment regarding the service enhancement plan that Metro stated in the Post Dispatch article, Metro had provided a brief outline of how they would enhance bus service with the passage of Prop. M. That plan took a hit when Prop. M was defeated, and the funding to support the planned service enhancement could not be generated. However, with the passage of Prop. A, funding is now available to support the service enhancement plan, as stated in the Post Dispatch article. </p>
<p>The defeat of Prop. M resulted in cuts in Metrobus service, which resulted in the loss of passenger boardings, because Metrobus service became no longer available to serve those former passengers. The Passage of Prop A, will now generate the funds necessary to eventually restore previously loss service. For starters, the ripple affect of the service cuts now has to be reversed by gradually restoring service back to the same levels which existed prior to the cuts. This will make Metro service available once again for passengers who were affected by the cuts, and hopefully encourage them to return back to using public transit, so that ridership may begin to peak toward the same levels enjoyed by Metro prior to the service cuts. </p>
<p>Now that funding will become available as the result of passing Prop. A, after the previous level of service has been restored, I hope that Metro will impliment the plan it had promised in 2008, when campaigning for Prop. M.  To win back former riders, and in order to encourage new riders to use public transit, Metro, to a great extent, will probably have to sell itself as well as their their product, in order to regain public trust. The product can sell itself by providing efficient and reliable public transportation. I think the public is tired of campaign promises. They want results.</p>
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		<title>By: MIKE</title>
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		<dc:creator>MIKE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Courtney for the info.

In response to downtown bus service, there is currently no Sunday service. Part of Metro&#039;s original committment, upon passage of Proposition A, was to eventually restore bus service to the bus stops, where service was discontinued, when Proposition M was defeated. 

Regular bus service should be restored in the downtown core area east of Tucker Blvd, to give that area of downtown more of a big city downtown feel. I think restoring service to that area is important in the further revitalization of downtown, and making it a more competitive area in our region.

Also, prior to the voting of Proposition M, in addition to future service expansion, Metro had also committed themselves to providing service enhancements to bus service at the level which existed at the time, prior to the voting of Prosition M (re: article on St. Louis Region at a Crossroad printed in the Post Dispatch in August or Sept. 2008). 

Now that Metro has our support in tax dollars, I hope they make good on their committments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Courtney for the info.</p>
<p>In response to downtown bus service, there is currently no Sunday service. Part of Metro&#8217;s original committment, upon passage of Proposition A, was to eventually restore bus service to the bus stops, where service was discontinued, when Proposition M was defeated. </p>
<p>Regular bus service should be restored in the downtown core area east of Tucker Blvd, to give that area of downtown more of a big city downtown feel. I think restoring service to that area is important in the further revitalization of downtown, and making it a more competitive area in our region.</p>
<p>Also, prior to the voting of Proposition M, in addition to future service expansion, Metro had also committed themselves to providing service enhancements to bus service at the level which existed at the time, prior to the voting of Prosition M (re: article on St. Louis Region at a Crossroad printed in the Post Dispatch in August or Sept. 2008). </p>
<p>Now that Metro has our support in tax dollars, I hope they make good on their committments.</p>
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